Anyone Using a TD9 for gigs?

[GRMondo]

Hi everyone,

While trying to determine the best way to use my GAS Funds I need the input of some of you who are using the TD9 on Stage for live gigs. I already like the sounds and all that goes with it. My concern is the cymbals in the mix of the sound. I know that there are no direct outs on this unit. Is anyone having any issues with FOH with cymbals not cutting through? I was wondering if there's a way to pan cymbals right and everything else left? would this be a solutions or just another headache? Just for this reason I may hold off for a TD12 or 20 but that just means that the GAS pains will continue to grow.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[grog]

I too am very interested in this. One thing that's held me back from seriously considering a TD-9 is that invariably I find 1-2 components of the kit (like a cymbal of some sort) that just can't be mixed on the module in order to stand out the way it should, hence, the direct outs on my TD-10 are a godsend. Don't need em all the time but when I do, I really do. That's the main reason why I always come back to the TD-12 or the DTXtreme III as prime candidates for my next module.

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[tisgnitch]

checkout drbeat talking about his experiences in this thread..
i'm sure i've read about others gigging with their 9s, but can't seem to find them..

edit: unfortunately i've just found that the utube videos have been removed....but if you do search there have definitely been others using their TD9s for gigs

[saku]

Originally Posted by tisgnitch

checkout drbeat talking about his experiences in this thread..
i'm sure i've read about others gigging with their 9s, but can't seem to find them..

edit: unfortunately i've just found that the utube videos have been removed....but if you do search there have definitely been others using their TD9s for gigs

Peter W, now scd, has said he gigged with his td9......try searching 'td9 peter w'....

[Jovato]

I've played a lot of gigs live on E-drums. It always makes me nervous, but I have never had a single issue. I've played with modules, a Muse Receptor and in about two weeks I'll do a gig with a laptop using Addictive Drums. In the past, I have thrown a small acoustic kit in the van as a back up. I expect I'll do this again even though I haven't had a single crash in my test period. You know, you can always break a bass drum pedal or a stick or something. You just have to take reasonable precautions. At some point, I'll pick up a cheap module as a backup to the computer. Honestly, I worry more about my triggers going out.

[scd]

The td9 actually has great cymbals that cut through. I would pan the kick to one side and everything else to the other. The custom kick tuned down a bit seems to work everywhere. The snares are not as good as the tdw20. The td9 custom snare is almost a piccolo sound and in some systems it was very thin. Unfortunately it is really the only usable snare in there. They really should have put something more universal like the tdw20 custom snare. That sounds good through every PA.

I use a real hi hat with my E kits because it just sounds better for live gigs,and holds the band together as well.

Peter

[Dalem77]

I use the TD-9 live and haven't had any issues with the cymbals...I actually turned the cymbal and hi-hat volumes (in the module settings) down a bit relative to the other pads as they verged on too much. I just use mono out, so I don't have experience with trying to pan the cymbals. I'm a relative newbie to the drums, but that's been my experience. I posted a video the other week in the showcase forum if you want to hear some of the TD-9 live...and there are a few other videos of shows with my TD-9 on youtube as well.

[Sook]

Yes we use the TD-9. we did use my TD_12 one night but as I said before they both sounded just the same FOH, we are in stereo and sounds just fine, we had to pull back the hi-hat volume

[Vdrum_Noob]

I've only played live twice with my td-9 (more like large backyard jams). I purchased the vex master 50 kit and the snares that are set up in those kits cuts through the mix like butter.
I agree that the snare on the stock td-9 does sound more like a piccolo snare
(from what I remember, I havn't used the stock kits since mid December)

Other people in my area that are running Td-9's and Td-12's live seem to have more problems with a good kick sound/setup.

Just some thoughts

RJ

Originally Posted by scd

The td9 actually has great cymbals that cut through. I would pan the kick to one side and everything else to the other. The custom kick tuned down a bit seems to work everywhere. The snares are not as good as the tdw20. The td9 custom snare is almost a piccolo sound and in some systems it was very thin. Unfortunately it is really the only usable snare in there. They really should have put something more universal like the tdw20 custom snare. That sounds good through every PA.

I use a real hi hat with my E kits because it just sounds better for live gigs,and holds the band together as well.

Peter

[scd]

Some of the vex kits tune that snare even higher. It just depends where you are playing. I ran it through a large DJ system with 4 double 18" subs and the snare was the only problem. In other rooms it may be fine.

[Vdrum_Noob]

Good Point SCD. The environment plays a big part. We were playing outdoors so there really was "no room" to deal with!

Nice sub system for the kick you're running there!

cheers
RJ

[scd]

Alot of these dance clubs have that much sub. The DJ systems quite often lack in low mids or mids so a thin snare will be really thin. The tdw20 custom snare sounds more like any 14" snare with a 57 on it. I wish they did that with the td9.
Peter

[Drummer-64]

Just copy your fav kit to a free spot and tweak just the snare for those occasions/locations. I did, it's even fun to do IMO

[drbeat]

GRMondo, the kit is fine for live performance and later on I'll dig out some FOH recordings of a gig I helped out with for you to listen to. The recordings were made on a minidisc recorder with 2 mics (like a walkman) and was positioned on the DJ's rig about 10 metres from the FOH (across the other side of the dancefloor)

Cymbals, toms, claps etc cut through no probs but the snare is a little light on volume even though it was turned right up! I later learnt that it was best to turn everything else slightly down to help the snare stand out more!

But saying that, I gigged the TD9KX over 40 times 2008 - 2009 and had no issues with this kit. The rack was treated like shit and is still in one piece, I have not had the need to change a mesh head in that time and there is no trigger issues on the cymbals particularly the CY5. The kick drum looks a bit on the odd side as it's quite small but I'm looking to upgrade that at some point to the one on the TD20. But I'm not in a rush...the kick does the job but I'd prefer something chunkier if you know what I mean.

For a gigging cover band, the TD9KX is deffo the best solution particularly the DB connector going into the back of the module...saves a hell of a lot of time. Yes the module is limited but it does exactly what it says on the tin!

I'll post some sounds up later.

Originally Posted by GRMondo

Hi everyone,

While trying to determine the best way to use my GAS Funds I need the input of some of you who are using the TD9 on Stage for live gigs. I already like the sounds and all that goes with it. My concern is the cymbals in the mix of the sound. I know that there are no direct outs on this unit. Is anyone having any issues with FOH with cymbals not cutting through? I was wondering if there's a way to pan cymbals right and everything else left? would this be a solutions or just another headache? Just for this reason I may hold off for a TD12 or 20 but that just means that the GAS pains will continue to grow.

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks!

[drbeat]

Hi Guys,

If you go here and download the zip file, within it you'll find 3 tunes taken from a wedding that was done last May. The line up for this gig was 4 weeks old so things sound a bit ropey vocals and music wise but we got through it. The bassist recorded the gig using a minidisc player/recorder with two little mics sticking out. It was mounted across the dance floor on the Dj's rig. You can hear the music going in and out as people walk/dance in front of the recorder. The recording helped us to decide what songs to drop and what to work on etc.

The TD9KX kit used on this was the TightHit kit which I realised in time was not full enough...the other recordings where I used CoolJazz, V-Tour and Groove kits sounded very good! But I can't find those recordings! Doh!

Anyway, FOH was 2 x MAckie SRM450 and 1 x SW1501 sub! You need a FOH like that if you're going to use an ekit on stage...especially the sub!

As stated earlier, in time I brought down the volume of the bass, toms, cymbals etc in order to allow the snare to stand out! On those recordings the TD9 is straight into the desk on one mono channel.

the recording is rather bass heavy but the sound guy on the night said the FOH sounded great...I guess the minidisc was more sensitive to the bass.

Anyway...enjoy (and yes I played too fast and got a bit lost on the claps at the start of car wash LOL but I was rather scared at this gig as I worried that it would fall apart...but it didn't).