Roland cymbal erosion

[stevesbeat]

Does any one else have problems with thier Roland cymbals ie......mine seem to be breaking up, I end up with fine black dust on the drums under the cymbals. I have only ever cleaned them with a damp cloth so is this normal.

Should have said that they are ...CY12 R/C and CY 13R and just over a year old.

I dont think that I would replace them with Roland ones again, maybe the Alesis surge ?

[fulrmr(Daniel)]

Are they triggering ok? I use 303 Aerospace Protectant. Best stuff you can use to clean, protect and preserve you rubber cymbals.

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[Sabre]

Does any one else have problems with thier Roland cymbals ie......mine seem to be breaking up, I end up with fine black dust on the drums under the cymbals. I have only ever cleaned them with a damp cloth so is this normal.

I get the same thing with my CY-8's but it hasn't affected the durability or triggering.
If you are looking to replace them down the road, consider the Yamaha cymbals.
I just bought a PCY135 and can't believe the difference on my TD-3.

[fulrmr(Daniel)]

I get the same thing with my CY-8's but it hasn't affected the durability or triggering.
If you are looking to replace them down the road, consider the Yamaha cymbals.
I just bought a PCY135 and can't believe the difference on my TD-3.

+1 for the Yammies.

[Navare]

Roland cymbals especially the CY-5 are not built to last the CY-8/12 are a little more rugged but swap out for Yamaha where you can there just more solid and durable

N.

[jammin777]

ive had my roland cymbals for 6 years and never had dusting.
cy 8, 12, 14, 15 and vh 12. i agree yammies are a great alternative.

[grog]

I'm not sure I could even tell given the dust in my household. I don't play in a clean room.

I've had my CY-14s for 2 years now and of course they were used, purchased from Adam Cooney, so I don't know how old they are. But there's never been any change in triggering.

My CY-5 is perhaps a year old, well, slightly older but only been in use regularly for a year. It obviously gets hit far more than the CY-14s and yeah, it has the usual stick marks, etc., on it. But erosion? Again, I don't think I could ever tell.

The 303 Protecterant is great stuff as many of us have attested to over the years. It's well worth your peace of mind to get some.

Yunno, it just dawned on me that we might be comparing apples and oranges to a small degree. I bet my CY-14s were made in Japan while the OP's newer cymbals were made in China. Don't snort. I see all kinds of subtle material(s) differences in products when the manufacturing has been moved to China. Not always but often enough to wonder. Hmmmmmmm.


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[stevesbeat]

Well Guy's thanks for all your replys, maybe I should rock the Sh** out of them and go for Yamaha cymbal's.Must say I did like the feel and response of them when I tried out the Roland kits awhile ago.

I'll give the 303 a go and see how that works, thanks for that.

Does any one have thought about the Alesis Surge cymbal's ?

[fulrmr(Daniel)]

Does any one have thought about the Alesis Surge cymbal's ?

Meh...If I were to go that route I would get Smartriggers as they are the originators and have more variety of sizes (including china) and zones.

I like metal cymbals. I use some A2E conversions on some Sabian's from here....http://stealthdrums.com/

[stevesbeat]

Ooooo So much to read and do.

Thanks !

[grog]

I've written a vast article on cymbals in the May 2011 and Feb 2012 issues of digitalDrummer Mag:

http://www.digitaldrummermag.com/Back_Issues.html

Hope that adds to your reading pleasure.

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[stevesbeat]

I've written a vast article on cymbals in the May 2011 and Feb 2012 issues of digitalDrummer Mag:

http://www.digitaldrummermag.com/Back_Issues.html

Hope that adds to your reading pleasure.

www.dauphinehotel.com
www.myspace.com/rubberuniverse
www.digitaldrummermag.com

Oh My God, will I ever see the light of day again

[Sabre]

My opinion after careful consideration is that any metal cymbal is going to be noisy.
And any attempt to 'silence' it by adding material to the strike zone, will negatively impact sensitivity/response.

If you want a stealth look, or aren't overly concerned about stick noise, metal cymbals are pretty easy to replicate.
For the longest time I wanted to do a stealthdrums.com hi-hat conversion to get the perfect hi-hat stick response. I even bought a set of acoustic cymbals for that very purpose. But I realized that the reason I wanted e-drums in the first place is BECAUSE they are quiet, and there is nothing better than manufactured e-cymbals for that purpose.
At $169 - $179 locally, there is no better price/performance solution that the Yamaha cymbals in my opinion.