Is it possible to buy the TD30 in parts ?

[jammin777]

if you can swing it i would get the td30 module first and then built the kit around it. just my 2 cents. later reviews may reveal that the older used pd 105 and pd 125 pads will be the way to go and saving a lot of cash! maybe a kd 120 kick and used cy 14 and 15 cymbals. as for the hi-hats vh 12 or new vh 13. it doesn't seem like there's going to be much difference with the older snare and toms pads i mentioned, but the hi hats. not sure but probably going to make the biggest difference. as time goes by we will know more when some of these guys finally get their kits and compare. but the potential savings are huge!

[punkouter]

I am leaning towards doing that... get the big main peice and get it over with (the module)... and ill atleast know I got the top of the line module and should not be worried about it being obsolete for awhile..

I noticed the new kick drum is $1099!.. $1099??? For a instrument that simple triggers a on off signal and velocity???? $1099???????

so yeah.. maybe i should get the module and rack.. then get super cheap old roland pads to quickly get the rest.. then I can start slowly replacing them

if you can swing it i would get the td30 module first and then built the kit around it. just my 2 cents. later reviews may reveal that the older used pd 105 and pd 125 pads will be the way to go and saving a lot of cash! maybe a kd 120 kick and used cy 14 and 15 cymbals. as for the hi-hats vh 12 or new vh 13. it doesn't seem like there's going to be much difference with the older snare and toms pads i mentioned, but the hi hats. not sure but probably going to make the biggest difference. as time goes by we will know more when some of these guys finally get their kits and compare. but the potential savings are huge!

[moofty]

Hi, on roland australia,

pd108 649 x2 =1298
pd128 699 x2 = 1398
pd128s 649 x1 = 649
Kd140 1099x1 = 1099
cy15r 399 x1 = 399
cy14c 349x2 = 698
vh13 949 x1 = 949
mds 12x 899 x1 = 899
td30 2499
total =$9888
Whole kit = $9499
Thats with the old rack, but not that much to be saved by getting it all at once, or am i missing something?

[punkouter]

I guess thats not USD so Im not sure what that means... The next question I have had as I have compared the two TD30 kits is they have slightly different hardware... how different is the hard ware?? How is the PD-125BK different from PD-128S-BC ? Is it just the pretty shell ? I don't care about that.

Hi, on roland australia,

pd108 649 x2 =1298
pd128 699 x2 = 1398
pd128s 649 x1 = 649
Kd140 1099x1 = 1099
cy15r 399 x1 = 399
cy14c 349x2 = 698
vh13 949 x1 = 949
mds 12x 899 x1 = 899
td30 2499
total =$9888
Whole kit = $9499
Thats with the old rack, but not that much to be saved by getting it all at once, or am i missing something?

[moofty]

It means, to buy the kit whole, its only 400 au dollars or 4% cheaper than buying it in parts.
I think thats a small price to pay for being able to build the kit up slowly.
As to the pads, check out the td 30 threads its been discussed in detail.

[fulrmr(Daniel)]

I guess thats not USD so Im not sure what that means... The next question I have had as I have compared the two TD30 kits is they have slightly different hardware... how different is the hard ware?? How is the PD-125BK different from PD-128S-BC ? Is it just the pretty shell ? I don't care about that.

The PD-128S-BC has the "newer" rim sensor technology. Not sure how much it actually matters as far as performance but so far with the limited user reviews of this.....it seems to be of "little" concern or advancement from the older pads. More time will tell as others chime in on the difference in performance.

[scd]

I would get the module and a used gibralter rack,plus used pads.
Peter

[saku]

Roland says the new pads are 20% better than the older ones, but that is a subjective number, we dont know what it means...I would get Diamond Electronic pads anyway, and a vh13, since the hihat has always been the most difficult to come close to how an acoustic plays.

[punkouter]

I didnt mean the new vs old pads.. I mean the different pads in the 2 version of the TD30 kits.. they are both new.. but most pieces of the kit seem to be slightly different ..

So hopefully there will be some chart in the future that will break out all the subtle differences .

Roland says the new pads are 20% better than the older ones, but that is a subjective number, we dont know what it means...I would get Diamond Electronic pads anyway, and a vh13, since the hihat has always been the most difficult to come close to how an acoustic plays.

[Tazed]

I think you need to go do a lot of reading about individual components.
Once you understand all the pros and cons of each part with the TD-30 (what you lose or gain in triggering), then you can decide where to go.
I'd say this one thing, though: while all the parts appear to cost less than the entire kit on one purchase (go figure!), they're MSRPs and not street (even in AUS dollars).
In reality, no-one's going to pay sticker price on a TD-30-anything once the initial frenzy has died down.
If you're after the most realistic sounds, then got to 2Box.
You can't beat real drum samples, though the TD-30 sounds a lot better.
It'll probably be a bit more 'work' in the end, but you want 'sounds' over 'playing realism', so that'd be the right direction if you haven't yet invested in any hardware.
And, yes, get a Gibraltar rack as previously mentioned - it'll cost much less than Roland.

[edtxer]

So hopefully there will be some chart in the future that will break out all the subtle differences .

All the manuals are in the support area:
http://www.roland.com/support/byprod...st.cfm?k=a&q=p
Have a good read.

[punkouter]

Gibralter rack ? I never heard of it.. Ill look into that.. Are all the racks from differne ePad vendors compatible ?

I am going to start with the TD 30 module and rack to start and go from there... Maybe get some used old rubber pads to quickly get up and running and go from there..

The only pad which is specific to the TD30 is the hihat ? That has some special language with the td30 ?

I guess ill get to hunting down and putting togther a chart of all the various pads (unless someone beat me to it )

I think you need to go do a lot of reading about individual components.
Once you understand all the pros and cons of each part with the TD-30 (what you lose or gain in triggering), then you can decide where to go.
I'd say this one thing, though: while all the parts appear to cost less than the entire kit on one purchase (go figure!), they're MSRPs and not street (even in AUS dollars).
In reality, no-one's going to pay sticker price on a TD-30-anything once the initial frenzy has died down.
If you're after the most realistic sounds, then got to 2Box.
You can't beat real drum samples, though the TD-30 sounds a lot better.
It'll probably be a bit more 'work' in the end, but you want 'sounds' over 'playing realism', so that'd be the right direction if you haven't yet invested in any hardware.
And, yes, get a Gibraltar rack as previously mentioned - it'll cost much less than Roland.

[Tazed]

Gibralter rack ? I never heard of it.. Ill look into that.. Are all the racks from differne ePad vendors compatible ?

I am going to start with the TD 30 module and rack to start and go from there... Maybe get some used old rubber pads to quickly get up and running and go from there..

The only pad which is specific to the TD30 is the hihat ? That has some special language with the td30 ?

I guess ill get to hunting down and putting togther a chart of all the various pads (unless someone beat me to it )

Dude! GIBRALTAR! www.gibraltarhardware.com Download the catalog and be prepared to drool.
The TD-30 is usable with all Roland hardware, but the VH-13, PD-108, PD-128-S and PD-128 pads are specifically designed to work with the TD-30.
They are new. And all current cymbals work to their optimum with the TD-30, especially the CY-14C and CY-15R.
There's threads on it here, so I'd suggest reading up on all the ins and outs.

[punkouter]

Dude! GIBRALTAR! www.gibraltarhardware.com Download the catalog and be prepared to drool.
The TD-30 is usable with all Roland hardware, but the VH-13, PD-108, PD-128-S and PD-128 pads are specifically designed to work with the TD-30.
They are new. And all current cymbals work to their optimum with the TD-30, especially the CY-14C and CY-15R.
There's threads on it here, so I'd suggest reading up on all the ins and outs.

so I could get something like this

http://www.gibraltarhardware.com/?fa...sid=513&cid=31

And get additional pieces as I get more pads right ? I just don't want a dead end rack where it is too small or something.

I found a good chart on all the pads for vDrums.. Are there any articles aroud detailing why the newer pads are better ? Do I need a newer pad for 'super natural' sound ? Ill go ahead and search the forum.. I estimate I will not have a complete kit until the end of the year so I will have plenty of time to research..

I guess these kits will come to the local music store (I live in DC) around June 2012 ?

[jammin777]

with the Gibraltar that could be a good start and you can add full sides later as needed. you can add till your hearts content!
the sky's the limit! as with the pads, the major differences is the triggering capabilities. the sensitivities and positional sensing. the reviews may start pouring in as these kit get in the hands of key people that can do comparisons fro the new pd108 and pd 128 com paired to the older pd 105 and pd 125. there is good reason to speculate that there may not be a lot of difference. but we will see. thats is what i meant by older pads. as for older cymbals, cy 12, 14 and 15 should do just fine. the hi hats are the main ones that will probably make the most difference. a vh 11 or 12 will do but the vh 13 has the updated motion sensor.