TD4 layout question.....

[Jimi]

Hey,

I'm about to purchase AD, and had a question. I now have a TD6V module, and was thinking of switching to a TD4. Does it have the capability expanding to 6 toms, hi hats, four crash cymbals, and a dual zone ride?

If not, what capabilities does it have?? I need my six toms!

Thanks, Jimi

[saku]

Hey,

I'm about to purchase AD, and had a question. I now have a TD6V module, and was thinking of switching to a TD4. Does it have the capability expanding to 6 toms, hi hats, four crash cymbals, and a dual zone ride?

If not, what capabilities does it have?? I need my six toms!

Thanks, Jimi

you get this with the td4: (Kick, Snare, Tom1, Tom2, Tom3, Hi-Hat, Crash1, Crash2, Ride) along with hihat control. if you only want single zone crashes you can split the two into 4. No way you are going to get 6 toms, as they are only single zone and cant be split.

How did you get all that on a td6v, did you make a lot of double zones into single?

[Jimi]

I split two of the toms, and a crash......

So, the toms can't be spliton a TD4?? What can I come up with??

[randallstevens]

Hey,

I'm about to purchase AD, and had a question. I now have a TD6V module, and was thinking of switching to a TD4. Does it have the capability expanding to 6 toms, hi hats, four crash cymbals, and a dual zone ride?

If not, what capabilities does it have?? I need my six toms!

Thanks, Jimi

I have a TD4 and bought an additional TD3 to solve the problem... works great. you just need to have a dual input midi interface for VSTs.

Well, actually, if the TD6 has a midi thru function, you could just run the midi out of the TD4 into the the TD6, go thru so you have both midi signals run into one cable.

Bruce, Saku or anyone know the verdict on that?

When I'm not running a VST, I run the audio of the TD3 into the aux input of the TD4, so I'm able to hear both modules without a mixer.

[saku]

I have a TD4 and bought an additional TD3 to solve the problem... works great. you just need to have a dual input midi interface for VSTs.

Well, actually, if the TD6 has a midi thru function, you could just run the midi out of the TD4 into the the TD6, go thru so you have both midi signals run into one cable.

Bruce, Saku or anyone know the verdict on that?

When I'm not running a VST, I run the audio of the TD3 into the aux input of the TD4, so I'm able to hear both modules without a mixer.

td6 has midi through, and you can change the midi channel - but makes more sense to get a used td3 then to buy a new td4 to use as a VST trigger.

[Jimi]

Isn't the TD4 more versatile COSM wise? Is the hi hat sensitivity better than the TD6V? Maybe I'm better off just using the TD6V alone??

[saku]

Isn't the TD4 more versatile COSM wise? Is the hi hat sensitivity better than the TD6V? Maybe I'm better off just using the TD6V alone??

The td4 has no COSM and not very much editing possibilties -though i though you were going to use AD for sounds. The hihat though is compatible with the vh11 and is more linear than the td6 (ie, the td4 has more inbetween positions than the td6).

[Jimi]

Is the TD4 expandable to 4 toms, hi hats, four crash cymbals, and a dual zone ride then? That would do.....

[Musiclab]

No way you are going to get 6 toms, as they are only single zone and cant be split.

TD4K comes with 3 dual trigger PD-8's. Is it the module that stops you from splitting them up?

[saku]

Is the TD4 expandable to 4 toms, hi hats, four crash cymbals, and a dual zone ride then? That would do.....

depends on if you want dual zone crashes...and the fourth tom would have to be in place of the snare rim...assuming you also want a snare and a kick.

TD4K comes with 3 dual trigger PD-8's. Is it the module that stops you from splitting them up?

yes...a misleading advert to say it comes with dual trigger pads if the module cant use them

[LarsYouPutz]

Keep the TD-6V and add either a TD-3 as suggested above or do as I did, add a TMC-6 with the TD-6V's MIDI thru. I picked it up for under $200 and it supports a 3 zone ride. I had 8 toms going at one point but have revised it to as follows...Kick, snare, 6 toms, 4 dual zone crashes, 2 single zone chinas, vh-11 hats, 3 zone ride, dual zone splash, and a single zone cowbell. It can't be beat. I don't use AD so I can't comment on that, but I use Superior 2 and it kills. I don't care about COSM or any of the sounds on the module itself since I don't use em. Strictly VST samples are used. I only use them as trigger inputs.

[Jimi]

Keep the TD-6V and add either a TD-3 as suggested above or do as I did, add a TMC-6 with the TD-6V's MIDI thru. I picked it up for under $200 and it supports a 3 zone ride. I had 8 toms going at one point but have revised it to as follows...Kick, snare, 6 toms, 4 dual zone crashes, 2 single zone chinas, vh-11 hats, 3 zone ride, dual zone splash, and a single zone cowbell. It can't be beat. I don't use AD so I can't comment on that, but I use Superior 2 and it kills. I don't care about COSM or any of the sounds on the module itself since I don't use em. Strictly VST samples are used. I only use them as trigger inputs.

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....

Would that change the dynamics of the hi hat?? Is it very difficult to line everything up using the TMC-6....

Would anyone be willing to post a tutorial if using a TD6V combined with the TMC-6.

Is it road worthy??

[LarsYouPutz]

The hi-hat doesn't change at all.

Not sure what you mean by line everything up. If what you are referring to is lining up the MIDI notes, that's a piece of cake. I did change the MIDI notes on KIT 99 custom to my setup though and named it Superior. I only changed the ride assignment so that I used the ride inputs on the TMC-6 since it does 3 way ride. I reassigned the MIDI notes on the TD-6V's ride input to something else, I believe just one of the crashes. Other than that, just assign the inputs on the TMC-6 to notes not used in your TD-6V kit. The user presets in the TMC-6 all come set to MIDI note 60 I believe which forces you to change them anyway. Then when building kits in Superior, I use the MIDI learn function to assign the additional kit pieces. I only really did a one time setup with the unit which took roughly 5 minutes, and haven't touched it since other than to turn it on or off, same as the TD-6V. I do all my tweaking from within the VSTi's.

Not sure of it's road worthiness, but it's built tougher than the TD-6V itself (box is made of metal, not plastic like the TD-6V), so I would assume it is very road worthy.

[Jimi]

The hi-hat doesn't change at all.

Not sure what you mean by line everything up. If what you are referring to is lining up the MIDI notes, that's a piece of cake. I did change the MIDI notes on KIT 99 custom to my setup though and named it Superior. I only changed the ride assignment so that I used the ride inputs on the TMC-6 since it does 3 way ride. I reassigned the MIDI notes on the TD-6V's ride input to something else, I believe just one of the crashes. Other than that, just assign the inputs on the TMC-6 to notes not used in your TD-6V kit. The user presets in the TMC-6 all come set to MIDI note 60 I believe which forces you to change them anyway. Then when building kits in Superior, I use the MIDI learn function to assign the additional kit pieces. I only really did a one time setup with the unit which took roughly 5 minutes, and haven't touched it since other than to turn it on or off, same as the TD-6V. I do all my tweaking from within the VSTi's.

Not sure of it's road worthiness, but it's built tougher than the TD-6V itself (box is made of metal, not plastic like the TD-6V), so I would assume it is very road worthy.

Thanks!!!!!

[ToDaMax]

Hey,

I'm about to purchase AD, and had a question. I now have a TD6V module, and was thinking of switching to a TD4. Does it have the capability expanding to 6 toms, hi hats, four crash cymbals, and a dual zone ride?

If not, what capabilities does it have?? I need my six toms!

Thanks, Jimi

From a former TD-4 owner, I suggest the TD-9, it has more of the bells and whistles that it sounds like your interested in.

Cheers