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  1. #1
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    paint roland cymbals

    because lets face it roland cymbals rule but they aren't exactly eye candy
    and with surge cymbals and smart triggers influencing so many awesome DiY
    projects I've seen well the question is has any one tried to get some roland painted to look real with spray paint or something or about a dye or krylon plastic fusion ..
    heck or a latex anyone?

    i for one am using diy acrylic cymbals ... but they aren't too quiet in fact they are down right annoying with out my head phones on to drown out the sound

    so while at a OSh (like a home depot) for some unrelated purchases
    i ran into sheets of rubber that they sell exact same type of rubber as on roland and yamaha cymbals . t(hey also had foam)...

    so i thought of buying a boatload to permanently glue on my acrylic cymbals
    i have yet to find a place that sells it in the with I'm looking for .

    i had other plans for these acrylic cymbals.
    but they were my first attempt at heat molding , and they are littered with ugly bubbles,
    and the hole in the center was done by eyeballing it thus not centered.

    so covering them with rubber would make them very quiet and it would be like putting a paper bag on the ugly kid before taking him out..
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    Don't even think about painting rubber cymbals. Even if you could find a paint made for rubber, it would wear off in about 5 seconds.
    I’d rather be told the ugly truth than handed a pretty lie.

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    I agree, this would become quite the mess.
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    Agreed about painting the rubber... bad idea.

    However, I was wondering about painting the white disc on the underside of the cymbals. I have never liked the way that looks or understood why they did that.

    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TNT View Post
    Agreed about painting the rubber... bad idea.

    However, I was wondering about painting the white disc on the underside of the cymbals. I have never liked the way that looks or understood why they did that.

    Thoughts?
    Hah! So their trademark would stand out better!
    I’d rather be told the ugly truth than handed a pretty lie.

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    Changing the color of a Roland cymbal won't make it look any better, just a different color really. I actually have seen brass-colored Roland cymbals, but the rubber was colored that way as it was manufactured, no doubt.

    I agree with SITM is right, don't try painting rubber. Just get some gum rubber from McMaster-Carr, it is tan and really not that bad (still better-looking than your "ugly kid").

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    Smile

    Maybe this should have been posted about a year ago. I did paint a CY-8 last year with a can of GOLD spraypaint from Wal*Mart. It looked really nice, like a real cymbal, and it is only now starting to show signs of wear. So I think it will last LONGER than 5 mins. Perhaps this might be due to the fact that I don't beat the hell out of 'em. I'll post a pic of this cymbal in it's current condition when I get home from work. I'll also give the info on the PAINT that I used. It was a year ago in March that I had painted the CY-8

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    Painting rubber=bad idea
    painting drum heads=bad idea
    painting drum sticks=bad idea
    painting anything that is struck by a stick or strikes a drum=bad idea (shells are a different story)

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    I'm anxious to see bobos cy-8 ..
    and i know it might be a bad idea to paint them .. but with krylon fusion paint and other latex paints. it might be worth a shot. and with latex you at least wouldn't have to worry about airborne flakes in your lungs..

    in conclusion i think a good alternative would be gluing on some shinny plastic from Tap. ilike this one http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/prod...50015412369438

    the only downside to that is gradually increased drumstick noise but this might help quite that and keep the noise down http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/prod...50015412369438

    i once owned a td-10 kit and cy-12's ..... i know there threads here of attemps to DIY similar cymbals... If my dm5 +trigger I/0 could handle a: bell switch / edge switch/ piezo/ ckoke set up ( 4 zones? ) I'd go for it....

    but i'm good with my two zone acrylic cymbals with this glued on top
    though I'm still looking for nicer rubber http://www.tapplastics.com/shop/prod...50015412369438...


    Pics will be up soon
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    Wink Painted Roland CY-8

    Here are the pics I promised. I cannot find the can of paint I used, but I will find it this weekend and post further info.

    This is my CY-8 I painted over a year ago and I have not retouched it with paint yet. It is just showing signs of wear on the edge, but the rest of the cymbal is still GOLD. It does give the appearance of a metal cymbal! This was an experiment to see how long the paint would last. I really didn't expect it to last this long though!

    Now before I painted it, I did scrub it really good with warm soap & water, then dried it with a hair dryer, then let it sit in room temperature for an hour before applying the 1st coat. I let it dry for 3 hours, then applied a 2nd coat. The following day, I did the same for the bottom side. You could probably do the same in less time, but I was in no hurry and wanted it to come out right.

    Bob
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    wow!!
    surge eat your heart out!
    wonder why Roland doesn't approach getting their cymbals like that straight out of the factory,,,

    maybe due to the properties of rubber....
    but by looking at that I'm sure putting on a layer of high resistance clear coats or even Poly...
    would really help

    or heck why not go all out paint and then mold some clear rubber on to it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3EjVQwBC_I,,,

    that mold their is very thick and opaque,, I'm sure thinner would be clearer

    but clear vinyl linked on my last post would be cheap and easy
    to keep bobos cy's looking good even longer
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    Why paint a rubber cymbal and cover it with vinyl? By doing so, there is absolutely no point to even using rubber. Roland cymbals are rubber so that they are quiet- cover them with vinyl and they will be much louder and probably not trigger or play as well either.

    If Roland cymbal triggers were manufactured with brass/bronze colored rubber that be cool, but they still wouldn't look very real.

    Molded silicone is rather expensive. I am not sure if the amount needed to adequately dampen the playing surface of an acoustic or acrylic cymbal would also be transparent enough either. A 12"x36" piece of gum rubber is only about $7.

    If a person really wants their e-cymbals to look like real cymbals, you may as well just convert acoustic cymbals. There is no option quite as stealthy.

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    I think it's interesting that people want their V Drums cymbals to be gold yet Zildjian is now marketing pitch black drum cymbals for acoustic kits

    http://www.massmusic.net/shop/?cat=1847

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    Quote Originally Posted by BillD View Post
    I think it's interesting that people want their V Drums cymbals to be gold yet Zildjian is now marketing pitch black drum cymbals for acoustic kits

    http://www.massmusic.net/shop/?cat=1847
    Yeah, black is the new gold these days.

    I have tried those black Zildjians at a GuitarCenter and I do not like their tone at all. There are much better acoustics out there for that kind of dough.

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    Ya know, they make rubber balls and all sorts of things in "metalic" colored rubber. So...why can't they just make some Gold rubber cymbals?

    I saw a thread that someone did the other day (cant find it...I hate search engine) that mounted an acoustic cymbal to the top of a Yamaha cymbal. Looked really good.

    Found it. The search engine is now my friend again...... for now.

    http://vdrums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=48772
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